Practical English Language
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I never learned English course. My basic English language only from formal school at junior and high school. So my reference is only blue striped white printed books from Ministry of Education and Culture which now called Ministry of National Education. I was amazed when my friend in first class at high school took a conversation with a tourist in the street. I really have no idea how to listen and to speak at that time. How stupid I am that I didn’t encourage to learn English well until I finished my high school. I didn’t get it when my English score better than Biology on National Final Exam, Ebtanas. I thought I didn’t care because I took IPA Programme on National Exam for University, UMPTN which now called SPMB. IPA Programme examine Pancasila Morale (PMP), Indonesian Language, Basic Math, Science Math, Physics, Chemistry, Biology and Integrated Science. Then I entered Architecture major, the second choice after Industrial Management and Engineering.
The first and second semester I got basic class, same for all students on every major, except one class specified for every major, of course mine was Basic Drawing and Architecture class. That year I didn’t face any new challenged lessons, everything seems the same as at high school.
The second year was new environments, new classes, new lessons, and the great one was new drawing and design studios. Uh, I miss this big cozy place. The challenged one was that almost all references in English. I pushed myself to learn reading English book that has new idioms, new terminologies, new concepts, especially in Architecture that somewhat very different compared to others who took different major. The lucky one that’s all tasks, assignments or exams given in Indonesian language, including paperworks and presentations. Of course sketches and drawings was a must in Architecture major. It’s a language to communicate human needs to easily understood.
Then there were years that so many sitcom began broadcasted by TV. This challenged me to learn listening English instead reading Indonesian subtitle. The lucky one was my senior have so many movies on VHS converted from Laser Disc. Those movies has no subtitle. This was encouraged me too to learn more listening English while I got a chance to watch many blockbuster movies I’ve missed.
One years then my class attended by student exchange from Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Australia. There was a new thing to practice listening and speaking English on conversations, including presentations in front of the class or studio. The problem came instantly, Australian accent, idiom and slang is very different than mostly American sitcoms or movies that I’ve watched on TV.
My works then after I’ve finished bachelor degree was in a local company, with local customers, no special English environments, until now. Practical English used only to communicate international institution or communities, a formal language one that mostly in writing email, discussion or lobbying. No special things because English language at that works was mostly engineering terms that had a little ambiguities, such as a geek conversation among computer nerds, bits and bytes, networks and netmasks, routings, firewalls, hacks and cracks, and many others phrases or idioms commonly used on internet.
Years ago I’ve started blogging in Indonesian language. I chose Indonesian writing –for the sake of Indonesian fellow– to fill the Indonesian contents on internet, to provide many things in mind to be written on my blog because there was only a little pages that so many Indonesian people searched for on search engine. I wrote some Linux tutorial, book or movie reviews, places, foods, histories, arts, or anything I’ve contemplated before and also wrote my own opinions about something, about anything, and maybe about everything.
Now this is the first English entry on this blog. I write this for the sake of id-gmail community which has started the new branch, an id-en mailing list, an Indonesian community in English language. A mailing list that we can practice English skill, especially writing in English practically as an expression. I see that the important thing in learning English is expressing our mind into phrases, sentences and paragraphs. This mailing list offering a great place to learning by doing, and of course with a lot of fun. The fun thing like literally English translation, not the expression itself such as “Little little to me, little little to me, salary no up up” is one of Indonesian jokes in English, perhaps only understood by Indonesian peoples. That’s a little distraction for me to smile or maybe rolling on the floor laughing.
Let’s join us to practice your English skill. Perhaps you are more skilled than me, so share your knowledges about English. In case you feel have no skill, that’s not a problem, because we encourage every member to write down English expression, corrects any mistakes or suggest the right one. The topics is infinite, anything in your mind just write down practically.
Hopefully see you there, soon.
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Kamis, 14 September 2006 @ 23:12
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cool, Jay brother…
well…we hope we can practice alot from id-en, just like you wrote…not only in Indonesian Joke…
someday…(in my dream) from this group, we can translate books…any books
Kamis, 14 September 2006 @ 23:28
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Good work, kang Jay!
there’s always the first time in everything. Those who never take the first step would never win.
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 0:06
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nice post mr jay…
as you mentioned, this is the first english post,
so, the next post will be indonesian or english?
which one do you prever?
*just curious*
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 2:42
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What is this?
An english post in “Jay adalah Yulian”?
I thought I’ve seen it all..
*hihi*
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 3:09
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That’s really cool! Although I did take some English courses in the past, what really drives me forward is watching English-spoken movies and reading English books. And on top of that, to make everything worthwile, blogging in English
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 3:36
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yaya.. i still have no time to read that mailing list.. doh..
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 6:38
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Nice post, I think we have to celebrate this first post in English by some feast as we always do in Kampung Gajah mailing list. “MAKAN-MAKAN” is dedicated for every single special occasian things, right?
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 7:28
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Bravo Jay! You really nailed it!
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 9:04
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first of all, MAKAN-MAKAN!™
whoa, i believe that there will be more english entry on your blog jae
*from the one who haven’t wrote english entry on his blog*
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 10:25
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cool jay!
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 10:33
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Aihh…pegel bacanya jay…he he he
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 10:40
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I’ve tried so hard to write in English. And I couldn’t make it untill now. Congratulations!
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 11:25
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*read this post*
Kang jay, your english is much much better than me. Plis teach me master…
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 11:34
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FOOD-FOOD!
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 12:31
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Horee..
Let’s start it.
EAT-EAT.!
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 13:40
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This post is about me, about English I had known. It doesn’t change my blog. English post just a subordinate of the blog itself, like I’ve posted photograph didn’t make my blog became photoblog.
Indonesian or English next posting is not the matter, because someday I want write in Sundanese.
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 13:55
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KOMENTAR PAKE SONIERIKSON?
*lostfocus*
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 15:11
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Wow!
I learned English the same way as you. Just considering to subscribe to id-en.
I must improve my english skill
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 17:13
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grossly encourage me to post this comment in english, same like you i never aware how important this “english” thing until my high school. In my humble opinion, sometimes the english courses wont give any advantage in “better” english compared with the way we learned english (autodidact), coz like you said it depends on how often we practice this language in courage not on how much level we’ve reached in course. Maybe you should consider to post entry in english regurarly, but with a little more strange phrase or secluded word that not very often come with usual conversation. I think it could enrich our vocabulary.
Hampura nyak upami aya kata2 nu lepat, punten pangkoreksikeun.
Jumat, 15 September 2006 @ 17:30
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Coincidentally, I just created a mail group, inggris@googlegroups.com, for Telkom employees to learn English.
Sabtu, 16 September 2006 @ 0:54
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I never pay attention to my active English skill until end of 2005, when I started my new job at PMA company in Bali. Now, English is my second language (actually, I have always speak English in office). One thing that I realized now, that even a native speaker canot speaks English very well. I found that some of my collegue have confused to spell a simple word like “opportunity” or “received”. It changed my mind about English forever!
Sabtu, 16 September 2006 @ 10:37
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Just one word Om Jay..
KEWL
Senin, 18 September 2006 @ 1:20
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Hi,
I’m also studying English and started a blog. I think it’s an excelent way to improve the knowlegde of the language. In my blog I posted some tips to learn English with available resources on the Internet, I hope that will be interesting for us.
Bye.
Senin, 18 September 2006 @ 13:04
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Couldn’t agree more with you. Just make yourself comfortable with your conversation and your writing. My blog is in Bahasa but my other blog (with my friends) is in English. This English blog had became one of the reference for Asian Travel weblog. This was un-expected.
Rabu, 20 September 2006 @ 14:44
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Back than at my collage I have to learn English, France and Japanese and Eventhough I’m working with Bule and force to speak English everyday with my Boss. I still found my self have a poor english, especially Grammar!.
But at least I still eager to learn and practice English at Id-En mailist..Learning English with Fun!
Kamis, 21 September 2006 @ 22:59
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Nice post Mr. Jay.
Kamis, 28 September 2006 @ 12:56
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wow, indonesian community english language….. hmm it seems i will join and will be part of them, thank mr jay for that infos
btw, Happy English
Sabtu, 7 Oktober 2006 @ 16:04
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I need english translator from movie for Indonesian subtitle or viceversa then,
thanks in advance
Jumat, 27 Oktober 2006 @ 17:58
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sob sob…my english is not developing in the recent studies…so i hope we can learn together…cheers
Selasa, 7 November 2006 @ 18:44
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mY eNGLISH IS STILL WORST. MAY YOU GIVE ME SOME WAYS OR INFORMATIONS HOW TO DEVELOPE MY ENGLISH ?
Senin, 20 November 2006 @ 11:46
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Hi, Jay i want to learn english from you and your experiences, can you sight a light on me ?
Selasa, 21 November 2006 @ 9:04
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Hai, Mr Jay, your english is very good, I have learn from you! what do you think?
Rabu, 22 November 2006 @ 11:24
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Hi Mr. Jay, my english is not good, I have learn from you….
Sabtu, 2 Desember 2006 @ 19:53
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hi…..Mr jay,Ilike engglish, because my opinion egglish is international language and almoust of the nation in the world using engglish as comunication but Ihaven’t high conffident to practise engglish.do you have suggest for me?how Iam developing high connffident in myself??
Rabu, 10 Januari 2007 @ 23:43
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hai..jay..i started my english languange since i’ve got a job in an INGO, but my english very bad , especially in conversation and writing, i hope i can learn with you or my friends in this blog…thanks 4 everything.
Senin, 15 Januari 2007 @ 9:55
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hi..mr jay, i want learn english from youu because my speak english not good
Rabu, 17 Januari 2007 @ 13:31
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Juz wanna say …. BRAVO ….
Kamis, 1 Februari 2007 @ 11:57
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after i finished read your blog, i think no doubt to reach out the time for learning english well..
when i was in senior high school, i always look for some reason to absent from my english course.
now, i’m very in remorse regret…but the regret is not important.. the important thing that i should do is learn..learn.. and more learn about english….thanks for jay who makes me feel more in spirit to write this comment..and i hope all of you’ll teach me about english…
Sabtu, 17 Maret 2007 @ 16:53
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hi.everybody must learn english.
Selasa, 22 Januari 2008 @ 0:04
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duh saya juga pengen belajar bahasa inggris nih read more…
Rabu, 30 April 2008 @ 11:42
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First of all, let me convey my “humble” thoughts of English usage. I guess there are always times when people see and think of themselves as progress makers. Well, sure they do make some so-called progresses. This is true of what those English learners feel when they keep on learning this mostly used international language, especially when they are originally from developing countries. They might feel they are already good enough at the language, in its many different aspects, while in fact they are not. Shame on you to show us how your English structures really are. Please check with your “real” English sources, either real-life teachers or textbooks, or both, or anything else that might come up your f**king head!